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Old 10-02-2009
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Default 2010 Saleen S281 Teaser Pics

Check out teaser pics of the new S281 on our Facebook Page or at our Flicker page.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/saleen_speedlab/

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From what I can see it Like it, you took away some of the negative features of the standard 2010. Any specs on options and motors?
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We will anounce all that at SEMA!

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Awesome job with what I can see Jess! I am curious I asked the question on FB is there going to be different HP offerings as in the past such as 3V, S/C, Extreme ,Etc.? Also when can I purchase #01 from you guys? I have been an avid supporter of Saleen Inc. from the start, I want it to go in good hands (MINE) LOL. Finally someone listened about the rear end, what a improvement! Transformers it's not!
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wow, better than the SMS rearend IMO. I guess they can now truly say "Unmistakenly Saleen!"
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Check out teaser pics of the new S281 on our Facebook Page or at our Flicker page.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/saleen_speedlab/

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now thats the only rearend design thats actually beautifull, and im sure m/j will have more than just pictures! nice going jess, wish i could make it to sema.
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Does the forward facing hoodscoop & bulge feed a Supershaker induction package... or something similar for air induction from the scoop?
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... I ask because I see that Jim-the-III talked about fitting a new hood to the Speedlab car, and it currently features a Supershaker.

http://saleenforums.soec.org/showthread.php?t=6196
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Not the same hood as in the pics. It is a new hood, but it's different than the one on the S281 in the pics. We will release details of that hood soon!

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Hey Jess, I know you said you will be posting details about the hood soon so I'm going to be a pain... can this hood be used with the 05-09 cars to give them a more modern look? I am getting ready to buy a hood for my 05 before I trade it in (Hint! Hint!) and I am wondering if I should wait before I purchase a glass hood or not. Also this hood wont be in the KR Hood price will it? Thanks for your patience....
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Hey Jess, I know you said you will be posting details about the hood soon so I'm going to be a pain... can this hood be used with the 05-09 cars to give them a more modern look? I am getting ready to buy a hood for my 05 before I trade it in (Hint! Hint!) and I am wondering if I should wait before I purchase a glass hood or not. Also this hood wont be in the KR Hood price will it? Thanks for your patience....
No, the hood from the 2010 will not work with 05-09 cars, Fenders are different. Sorry. As far as being in the KR hood price range the answer is no way!

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how about those rims..they look pretty sweet from what I can see. Would they hapeens to be a forged light weight?
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how about those rims..they look pretty sweet from what I can see. Would they hapeens to be a forged light weight?
They look to be the standard 09/Darkhorse Speed Stars...?
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Not the same hood as in the pics. It is a new hood, but it's different than the one on the S281 in the pics. We will release details of that hood soon!

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Jess I think your dealers need an e-mail :D
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I have to admit... the 435S left me wanting more from the new "Saleen", personally, but this... this looks to be an awesome car. I can't wait to see some specs and performance numbers!
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I have to admit... the 435S left me wanting more from the new "Saleen", personally, but this... this looks to be an awesome car. I can't wait to see some specs and performance numbers!
From what I have heard there will be unveiling a new Saleen at the Sema Show in Vegas that offers more than the 435S.
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From what I have heard there will be unveiling a new Saleen at the Sema Show in Vegas that offers more than the 435S.
Yes, SimiSaleen, a teaser of the "Saleen" S281 SEMA show car is pictured way above -- that's not the 435S seen at the Queen Mary show, though it looks like it shares the same Classic Design Concepts style rear deck panel http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com...t_detail&p=173


Autoblog has the various S281 teaser computer images handy in a recent story http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/08/2...of-sema-debut/ so you may want to check that out or the flicker link above that Jess posted.
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That is the first rear view of a 2010 Mustang I have seen that looks decent. I didn't care for SMS's version, and I sure don't care for Ford's stock design.
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SPV has set the bar real high as far as what we have seen them do with the back of the 2010 S281. I personally would have never had thought of getting rid of my 05 for a 2010 model (I felt the back of the car was hideous) SPV has changed my mind! I am hoping that the rest of the car is as hot ( looks, performance and price) to entice me to trade in the beast I am now in the process of completing. I love the car I have, it is everything I could have hoped for, but this car sure looks like the real deal! After having a 70 Boss 302 for 28 years my 05 puts it to shame in every way. I spent thousands to make the 70 go the way I wanted it to, but the 05 on every level will outperform it, and it is civilized P/S, P/B ,Air and it simply has the look. SPV you guys are building the next layer in Mustang History! Set the bar high!
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That is the first rear view of a 2010 Mustang I have seen that looks decent. I didn't care for SMS's version, and I sure don't care for Ford's stock design.

The SMS Mustang will be awesome. Just wait until you see it in person. I was at the SMS show in Sept and I am still drooling over the Challenger they are building. Everything they do will be first class all the way!
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Well IMO, the 2010 "Saleen" is not a Saleen at all. It does nothing for me. It actually reminds me of the Roush cars from around the mid to late 90's with just stick on front air dams, some wheels and some stickers except the "Saleen" will have more HP over the stock car unlike Roush did back then for several years.

If this is what MJA has planned for the future of the "Saleen", they better do a much better job then that. You figure, they would have to crash test the 2010 several times to completely replace the bumpers and that is why they are not doing that. It would cost them way too much $$$ to do so and being basically and brand new start up company they don't have the funds for that.... that is my thinking of the cheap way around that by just putting a front lower air dam on the car. The side and rear are factory. I think it would have been in there best interest to do it right the first time especially following in the footsteps of the previous car and secured funding to do the testing and modify the car more then what they have planned.

Now sure, you might be paying money for the engine workups for the "Saleen" but you could do something to a stock GT for alot less and prob be faster anyways.

As for Dealer network or rework, I think MJA already had shot themselves in the foot when they took over some of the old "Saleen" and said nope, not going to continue to warranty all the current cars that have warranty. Then Steve did it right in coming out and saying, I will pickup the warranty claims on those cars.

I think SMS will come out on top since it seems to me that Steve is doing it right from the start and MJA did the complete opposite from the start and all current owners of Saleens that had warranty have a sour taste in there mouth regarding the current owners of some parts of the old "Saleen".
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Well IMO, the 2010 "Saleen" is not a Saleen at all. It does nothing for me. It actually reminds me of the Roush cars from around the mid to late 90's with just stick on front air dams, some wheels and some stickers except the "Saleen" will have more HP over the stock car unlike Roush did back then for several years.

If this is what MJA has planned for the future of the "Saleen", they better do a much better job then that. You figure, they would have to crash test the 2010 several times to completely replace the bumpers and that is why they are not doing that. It would cost them way too much $$$ to do so and being basically and brand new start up company they don't have the funds for that.... that is my thinking of the cheap way around that by just putting a front lower air dam on the car. The side and rear are factory.
?????????? Did you not look at the pictures that this thread is all about? Please do so and then make a comment, I would like to hear it, even if you still don't like it. We like to hear good and bad responses about the car, everybody is going to have an opinion but at least look before making a statement.

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Just in case there is some confusion as to what conceptual images we're really talking about, I've attached the three from flickr below.
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Love the "coming soon - To a select few" nice touch of advertising!!
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Love the "coming soon - To a select few" nice touch of advertising!!
Coming Soon! They better hurry because the 2011 Mustang order bank opens next month, New 5.0 and EcoBoost V6 and some changes to the rear of the car.
I already have several orders ready to load.
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Hey Jess, obviously you gave the right answer the reason for this thread is for you guys to get "educated" opinions so you can draw input from them. Even die hard Roush guys here on the Island have to admit, your company is the first to address the horrible rear end issue and make it look good. I don't think a lot of the Roush guys are going to run out tommorrow and order one. Honestly there is a lot of trepidation hovering around Saleen Inc. + SMS (regarding re-emergence of Saleen Inc., the newness of SMS as a viable company and of course, the prior warranty issues). When I speak on behalf of the product all I can say is "let their products speak for themselves". I do not know very much about the SMS Mustang but, what I do know about the Saleen Inc. S281 makes me think it will be an awesome piece of machinery! Mike Shields, Jess and the gang keep working hard, As my Dad always said to me " Hard Work Pays Off!"
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Coming Soon! They better hurry because the 2011 Mustang order bank opens next month, New 5.0 and EcoBoost V6 and some changes to the rear of the car. I already have several orders ready to load.Tom
Changes to the rear.......not the first time I have heard of this. Very intersted in the GT500, all aluminum 5.4 with a bump in hp from 540. I can't wait to see what Saleen, SMS and Roush do with the new 5.0.
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So far it is the only rear end on the new Mustang that does not look unfinished.
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Some how some way I missed the first photo in this thread... maybe from the lack of sleep because of my new little guy lol. I was still commenting from the first pics that were put out a few months ago.

Now with that said, I will say that those look much much better then before.... But still don't like it 100%. I don't know what it is.... Maybe I will be able to figure it out once I can see complete pics of the whole car. Heck, maybe I will like it just the way it is once I see it in person. :)
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The angle of the 2010 rear drawling... doesn't work for me. If by standing next to a physical model, if it then cuts the rear viewing area in quarters, thirds or in half... then this might work. Short of this... staring at the rear of this car would be similar to ogling the Lane Brayant catalog.

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I for one bought a saleen for its "IN YOUR FACE" "POW" "WHAT IS IT?" styling, steve saleens racing heritage, and his VISION. "power in the hands of a few"

what i see from these little pics are so DETUNED, basic, affordable? who cares, sleeper= NO THANKS , ive said it before buy a freakin base mustang an put wheels, a spoiler, an sc it there ya go..

you need to STICK to the original formula an stop with this "BASIC" "SIMPLE" mode

the second set of teaser pics are ok, still not buying it on my end, i want the wild styling, wheres the tray wing on the back? hahahahahahha sorry but i like it on my model some dont.

another killer for me is how they've turnd the aftermarket parts bin upside down to where anyone can just buy all my car parts an there they go, a FALEEN.. an will most likely pose it off as a real one

sorry if im step'n on toes but a SALEEN is not a True SALEEN without THE original STEVE SALEEN
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I for one bought a saleen for its "IN YOUR FACE" "POW" "WHAT IS IT?" styling, steve saleens racing heritage, and his VISION. "power in the hands of a few"

what i see from these little pics are so DETUNED, basic, affordable? who cares, sleeper= NO THANKS , ive said it before buy a freakin base mustang an put wheels, a spoiler, an sc it there ya go..

you need to STICK to the original formula an stop with this "BASIC" "SIMPLE" mode

the second set of teaser pics are ok, still not buying it on my end, i want the wild styling, wheres the tray wing on the back? hahahahahahha sorry but i like it on my model some dont.

another killer for me is how they've turnd the aftermarket parts bin upside down to where anyone can just buy all my car parts an there they go, a FALEEN.. an will most likely pose it off as a real one

sorry if im step'n on toes but a SALEEN is not a True SALEEN without THE original STEVE SALEEN
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I can certianly respect the gentleman who have said " A Saleen is not a Saleen without Steve Saleen" if that is the way you feel go buy an SMS Mustang. As for the rest of the people who feel other ways, they will want to educate themselves on what is being offered in the broader scope and make an informed decision based on the facts and not name recognition. As far as I am concerned and I am not looking for an arguement about this, the BEST SALEEN MUSTANG that was ever produced are the 302E cars and I hate to tell you something--- Steve Saleen had already left when they were produced.
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I can certianly respect the gentleman who have said " A Saleen is not a Saleen without Steve Saleen" if that is the way you feel go buy an SMS Mustang. As for the rest of the people who feel other ways, they will want to educate themselves on what is being offered in the broader scope and make an informed decision based on the facts and not name recognition. As far as I am concerned and I am not looking for an arguement about this, the BEST SALEEN MUSTANG that was ever produced are the 302E cars and I hate to tell you something--- Steve Saleen had already left when they were produced.
You would have to realize that the 2008 302 Extreme cars were already conceived and in the incubator by the time the 2007 PJ car and its 302 had been created. While the PJ was to be the only 302 vehicle in 2007 to pay a homage to Parnelli as well as ensure the exclusivity of the 302 in the lineup, adding the 302 to others in the lineup in 2008 was the next step in the evolution of that generation of Saleen Mustangs. In other words, don't think that Steve didn't have anything to do with the 302E when the foundation and the plans were already established, because that's not the case.
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You would have to realize that the 2008 302 Extreme cars were already conceived and in the incubator by the time the 2007 PJ car and its 302 had been created. While the PJ was to be the only 302 vehicle in 2007 to pay a homage to Parnelli as well as ensure the exclusivity of the 302 in the lineup, adding the 302 to others in the lineup in 2008 was the next step in the evolution of that generation of Saleen Mustangs. In other words, don't think that Steve didn't have anything to do with the 302E when the foundation and the plans were already established, because that's not the case.
I agree, the time in between Steve's departure and the release of the 302E lineup would support this statement. From Concept to Dealer doesn't just happen over night in the auto industry, it is thought out far in advance...
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... the BEST SALEEN MUSTANG that was ever produced are the 302E cars and I hate to tell you something--- Steve Saleen had already left when they were produced.
I agree with you about the car . However the S302E is certainly an evolution of the cars that were produced while Steve was there - they may have been built after he left (mine was built 9 months post-Steve's retirement), but the influence is very much of the "Steve Saleen" era...

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I fully understand that the 302E cars have his influence ( Steve Saleen ) all over them but being that they were built AFTER he left does this make it a true Saleen??? I know the answer, of course it does. I'm sure Chris would agree and as I already stated the Baddest of them all came out after he left but, it is still a Saleen as will the new evolution of the modified Mustangs be. Whether it is an SMS Mustang or a Saleen Performance Vehicle Mustang IT IS STILL A SALEEN MUSTANG! Or maybe we ought to get out the asterisks, I'm sure Barry Bonds could lend you a few!
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I for one bought a saleen for its "IN YOUR FACE" "POW" "WHAT IS IT?" styling, steve saleens racing heritage, and his VISION. "power in the hands of a few"

what i see from these little pics are so DETUNED, basic, affordable? who cares, sleeper= NO THANKS , ive said it before buy a freakin base mustang an put wheels, a spoiler, an sc it there ya go..

you need to STICK to the original formula an stop with this "BASIC" "SIMPLE" mode

the second set of teaser pics are ok, still not buying it on my end, i want the wild styling, wheres the tray wing on the back? hahahahahahha sorry but i like it on my model some dont.

another killer for me is how they've turnd the aftermarket parts bin upside down to where anyone can just buy all my car parts an there they go, a FALEEN.. an will most likely pose it off as a real one

sorry if im step'n on toes but a SALEEN is not a True SALEEN without THE original STEVE SALEEN

I Also agree 100% with these statments...for what it's worth
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To respond: "if the car appeals to the masses it is not special" Come on Dave, I'll give you an example: Did you ever hear of a Boss 302? It appealed to the masses, WAS realitively cheap and a very SPECIAL automobile.
As far as the employees of Saleen go... Did they receive the same profits and dividends that the hierarchy exponged? I think not. So fair credit for failure has to be doled out accordingly. The old addage may apply here: "the fish rots from the head down".
Fantasyland is a good term, but do you really think there are enough customers out there to buy into Fantasyland? Remains to be seen....
Also, Do you really consider the MJ/Saleen A CHEAP PRODUCT? Cheap on who's level? Bill Gates?? How can anyone derive what kind of product this car will be by seeing 3 partial pics? From what I know, the guys at SPV deserve better than just being browbeat, they are a great bunch of guys attempting to renew something with some very good automobiles. We are not giving them credit for what they are doing, remember this IS their first year.
As far as Mr. Shelby/ Mr. Saleen goes.... they both have built great cars over the years. I would have to think Mr. Shelby's first foray into building cars far overshadowed anything Mr. Saleen has done, or will do. His Cobra's, Mustang's and GT40's are not in the same conversation as what Mr. Saleen built ( although I think Mr. Saleen did build some very good cars. His cars just don't stack up). Mr. Shelby is an automotive icon and deserves the accolades he receives. And hopefully, someone will bring up the S-7 ( a great car) but how many times did it win at LeMans? I am not trying to beat up on Mr. Saleen. I think he was quite a good auto builder in his day, but if you are about to put Mr. Shelby in a box, Is Mr. Saleen far behind??? Hmmmm.....
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Come on Dave, I'll give you an example: Did you ever hear of a Boss 302? It appealed to the masses, WAS realitively cheap and a very SPECIAL automobile.
The Boss 302 did not appeal to the masses. Different era of vehicles when the automotive culture of this country was still leaning heavy toward domestic brands. In terms of '69-'70 Mustangs, the MACH 1 styling package appealed to the masses.

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As far as the employees of Saleen go... Did they receive the same profits and dividends that the hierarchy exponged? I think not. So fair credit for failure has to be doled out accordingly. The old addage may apply here: "the fish rots from the head down".
Depending on the employee, they'd steal off the production line or parts department. What's the difference. Theft is theft. Most employees in any given company are replaceable. Most think they're special, few actually are. Cogs in a wheel that's part of a machine. Cogs are frequently replaced.

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Fantasyland is a good term, but do you really think there are enough customers out there to buy into Fantasyland? Remains to be seen....
Hyundai's would still look like Hyundai's if people wanted boring cars styled as toasters. People who spend $15,000.00 on custom paint... want Fantasyland even more. Spoils of success... or to live with a full-size HotWheels car.

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Also, Do you really consider the MJ/Saleen A CHEAP PRODUCT?
No. When the 2010 S281 debuts, those comments can be made if need be. If the detail items are not present, if the car does not feature interesting intricacies, and if MS doesn't give a speech as to why anyone should care about this new product... I will consider it cheap.

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From what I know, the guys at SPV deserve better than just being browbeat, they are a great bunch of guys attempting to renew something with some very good automobiles. We are not giving them credit for what they are doing, remember this IS their first year.
Their rocky start was their own doing.

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As far as Mr. Shelby/ Mr. Saleen goes.... they both have built great cars over the years. I would have to think Mr. Shelby's first foray into building cars far overshadowed anything Mr. Saleen has done, or will do. His Cobra's, Mustang's and GT40's are not in the same conversation as what Mr. Saleen built ( although I think Mr. Saleen did build some very good cars. His cars just don't stack up).
Bias, or you bought into the Shelby marketing. Ford Motor Company was a too important factor in CS 1960s party.

The GTs were their (FMC) cars. Firms like Holman Moody and Bill Stroppe can take the re-engineered, winning, Ford GT credit and success as well.

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Mr. Shelby is an automotive icon and deserves the accolades he receives.
Not really. He was a ruthless business man, who had a brief racing career, and was in the right place, in the right time, with the right idea at the dawn of the 1960s.

He didn't race his creations and he didn't build his creations. The Mustangs were forced upon him and the revamped GT was Ford's billion dollar out-sourced project.

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And hopefully, someone will bring up the S-7 ( a great car) but how many times did it win at LeMans?
Ford won LeMans with the GT. Ford's money, Ford's car, with an outsource of teams and crews.

And again... different eras. Bringing a vehicle to market like the S7 in 2000 was a much daunting task then building a Cobra in 1962.

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I am not trying to beat up on Mr. Saleen. I think he was quite a good auto builder in his day, but if you are about to put Mr. Shelby in a box, Is Mr. Saleen far behind??? Hmmmm.....
The SMS 570 and 460 indicate to me... that Phil Frank & SS are thinking outside the box... with these limited edition, cohesive, imaginative, performance vehicles. Fantasyland is rockin'.
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Dave, I respect the opinions you have on different prior topics but you have your opinions and I have mine. That's what makes the world go round. I just find that although this is a Saleen Forum that a lot of times there is bias toward anyone that does not believe Steve Saleen is god. I feel that as long as everyone stays civil and tries to speak his or her own opinions other members can get good info. Dave, I do not know your history with Mr. Saleen but it does sound like there is something there. If there is, well sorry if I get you upset personally, but I have differing views than you. I also have been around Ford's and racing my whole life. There probably hasn't been too many older Mustangs I have not owned over the many years I have been wrenching and driving America's favorite ponycar. Maybe the Saleen experience is not for me because at times I feel that the way people buy Saleen's is to pay a lot of money and have them built already or at least that is the perception I am getting. Hmmm... Spend a whole lot of money ( modding a car) when I can use the same parts and do it myself and enjoy the car more because I built it. I have owned a 70 Boss 302 for 28 years now and have turned every bolt on that car and that is what I am most proud of.. I did all the work on that car. If you can't do things yourself ,hey it's great to have the Saleen's and Shelby's out there but, nothing is like using your own creativity and workmanship.
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Maybe Im luck my work computer wont let me see the "first pictures" But from Jim D. 's post right above...I love the car. I hope one day that I will add it to my collection.
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Maybe Im luck my work computer wont let me see the "first pictures" But from Jim D. 's post right above...I love the car. I hope one day that I will add it to my collection.
Those are all three shots we've seen so far, I was just saving people the confusion to have to go to flickr, which is often blocked at the workplace.

I'd say it's an aggressive look, and it will be interesting to see in person.
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when the time comes to order, i most likely will order a SMS over this
as 2010 + has nothing steve saleen in it except his NAME.....

thats my opinion and im sticking too it ;) hahahhahaha

oh and mineral.. of course chris would agree with you HE OWNS ONE DOH!!!!
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You are correct everyone's entitled to their own opinion. For me when the time comes and I am not sure if that will be 2010 and I buy a new car, I will purchase a car not on whose name is on the side, windshield or bumpers. I will purchase the car that best suits what I want, and I look into a lot of variables - price, styling, performance and handling, and overall best bang for the buck. I only purchased the Saleen I have now not because Steve Saleen had his hands in my engine bay (which I know he didn't) or because he signed my dash ( which he hasn't ). I bought my Saleen because I got an unbelievable deal on my car. That does not detract from the car. It is an awesome car ( eye appeal , performance and handling etc.) but if prices on these cars had remained high which I always felt Saleens in general were very high priced, I would never had purchased one.
I am one of a lucky few who purchased one at the right time and boy is this the right time. Not only did I get a monster deal on my car, the parts that are floating around on the forum sites, E-Bay and privately makes it very easy and I might add, inexpensive to go out and purchase a 3V S281 and turn it into a Saleen Mustang Supercar. It is unbelieveable what parts are out there if you have the saavy to find them. I am not a rich man, so I will never go out and buy one of these high priced special edition Saleens ( Dark Horse, Sterling Edition or 302 E) But having the knowledge I have attained about these cars and I'm not saying I'm an expert you can put one of these together (special edition Saleens) for a lot less than it costs to buy one ( a whole lot less!). So what, my badge says S281 on it and not 302E. If my car has the 302E forged engine, the big S/C, the 6speed trans. and 4.10 rear..... same car, different badging and 10's of thousands less money! And to the purists... IT IS STILL A SALEEN!
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As long as folks are enjoying themselves... that's all that matters. I know when this thread receives a new post... it gets spied on with a "look what they're saying now" comment.

Regardless on how folks want to cut it. SS was a fairly important component to the cars we celebrate. There where various financial backers, people working in the parts department, engineers, marketers, sales people etc. As a collective they worked to create a whole over the 25 years.

SS is a great marketer. He knows what his cars should be, resonate on sight and could explain in reasonable fashion to the auto scribes and public why we should care.

People who purchased the cars felt they where not only buying an enthusiasts car, but buying into a family atmosphere. One could see this with the files ASC/Saleen dumped out of Irvine on their move to Troy. Various letters, photos, updates written by owners about their Saleens and family. Material 10-15+ years old... but still dumped as garbage. Some purchased these as cars and used them as such, others made their Saleen a family member and felt a connection to share the trials, tribulations, joys and adventure with their Saleen vehicle.

The 2010 MJA/SPV S281 is an interesting Mustang, but at the end of the day... there was more going on then building a cool car.

My only worry for MJA/SPV... is if they listen to the wrong voices about who the owners and enthusiasts are as well as what drives these folks into the purchase of an unnecessary toy.

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As long as folks are enjoying themselves... that's all that matters. I know when this thread receives a new post... it gets spied on with a "look what they're saying now" comment.

Regardless on how folks want to cut it. SS was a fairly important component to the cars we celebrate. There where various financial backers, people working in the parts department, engineers, marketers, sales people etc. As a collective they worked to create a whole over the 25 years.

SS is a great marketer. He knows what his cars should be, resonate on sight and could explain in reasonable fashion to the auto scribes and public why we should care.

People who purchased the cars felt they where not only buying an enthusiasts car, but buying into a family atmosphere. One could see this with the files ASC/Saleen dumped out of Irvine on their move to Troy. Various letters, photos, updates written by owners about their Saleens and family. Material 10-15+ years old... but still dumped as garbage. Some purchased these as cars and used them as such, others made their Saleen a family member and felt a connection to share the trials, tribulations, joys and adventure with their Saleen vehicle.

The 2010 MJA/SPV S281 is an interesting Mustang, but at the end of the day... there was more going on then building a cool car.

My only worry for MJA/SPV... is if they listen to the wrong voices about who the owners and enthusiasts are as well as what drives these folks into the purchase of an unnecessary toy.



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