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2010-2014 Saleen Mustang For the SN10 platform California-built 2010 SMS 460 and 460X, the 2011-12 SMS 302, and 2013-14 Saleen 4V, SC, SSC and 351.
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Old 05-06-2013
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Default Changeover SMS/Saleen Mustangs

In viewing 2012 and 2013 Saleen Mustangs over the past few months, I started to make mental notes of the equipment and logos of these vehicles as they were inventoried at various dealers. The Saleen brand announcement publicly took place on April 1, 2012

2008: The three 2008 Saleen SA-25 (or SMS 25A) coupes were co-branded throughout.

2010: The twelve (?) SMS 460 models were complete with SMS logos. 10-001 460 and 10-001 460x featured chrome 570 fender logos correctly tilted. The rest appear to have gelatin emblems aligned horizontally.

2011: The SMS 302 models built in 2011 have a compete collection of SMS logos. The early White Labels (built in late 2010) appear to not be produced on low option GT coupes. They also appear to have low serialization production numbers.

White Labels appear to have used two different rear trunk panels. One is ribbed, one is smooth. The early White Labels appear to not feature the SMS logo front headrests.

2012: The SMS 302 models built before April 1, 2012 appear to have carried the same production features. More White Labels appeared on no-option GT coupes with Yellow Labels on Premium chassis's. Black Labels continue as they were since 2011, but have a supercharger.

2012: After April 1, 2012. The White Label adopts the MJ/Revstone SALEEN trunk panel. "Some" S302 models are equipped with SALEEN grill emblems as fender emblems. "Some" models have the SALEEN windshield banner, with Saleen fender logos, with the SMS trunk emblem, SMS logo seating and SMS calipers.

The MJ/Revstone Saleen logo shift knob is worked into production. At least one 2012 S302 Black Label used the MJ/Revstone 200MPH gauge overlay.

2012: Late 2012 models and all 2013 based models appear to be "normal."


It does appear that production overlapped with the various model years.

2010 & 2011 models were both produced in 2010.

2011 & 2012 models were both produced in 2011

2012 & 2013 models were both produced in 2012.


Feel free to post your findings or what you have seen.
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Don't forget the one 2010 SMS 460X had a genuine Saleen supercharger, which Steve had no problem using since it was his design. :)

After April 1, 2012, Steve had access to some of the parts produced for the 2010-12 MJ/Revstone cars, and there was certainly a surplus of those parts, so it made sense to use some of them like with the SALEEN trunk lid panel.
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I was sent the windshield and front grill saleen logos but opted to keep it all SMS because the wheels say SMS on the center cap just like the seats along with the rear bumper. Just wanted to be consistant even though SMS and Saleen were or are the same company.
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Also... it appeared 10-001 460x was the only Mustang to receive the new quarter window trim design. This trim was removed from 10-001 460 before delivery.

In late 2012 it appeared Saleen started to install the 2005-09 quarter window trim on the 2013 and 2014 Black Label models. This applies to the updated 2011 and 2012 models as well.

The rectangle exhaust tips have made their appearance during many shows and premiers, but it does not appear they ever went into production. These tips are usually removed from the display vehicle after the occasion.

Not all 2010-12 Saleen Mustangs were signed or feature a dash serialization plate before delivery.
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It also appears the vehicles before April 1, 2012 use the newer SMS style bumper number font for these decals.

While the vehicles after April 1, 2012 use the traditional Saleen bumper number font for these exterior serialization decals.
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I saw the Saleen shift knobs during the open house. I am suppose to get one. Also noted the 2010's+ did not get dead pedals. Tye supercharged cars didn't have the guage pod assy either. Kind of miss that. My 2011 is considered a Black Label SSC which I undersatnd is the supercharged Black Label. Most of my stuff has been converted th Saleen, grill, logo's, wheel centers and even the brake calipers. About the only thing left as SMS is the two plagues - dash and underhood - and the seat covers - oh and the rear facia.. My car didn't have the rear qurter window trim, but it does now. I have pictures of my car from the original SMS trim and the two stages of Saleen updates. I believe my bumper number is the SMS style, but the car is signed and has the dash plaque. Still waiting for my LOA for production numbers.
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About the only thing left as SMS is the two plagues - dash and underhood - and the seat covers - oh and the rear facia..
Were your white SMS gauge fascias swapped to black Saleen logo ones?

I "think" the 2010 460x ran a 570 gauge pod for the supercharger. Unless it was removed.


It seems the early 2011 S302 models were produced from GTs with the technology package. Navigation and HID headlights.


For 2010 we know Bob Bell Ford took delivery of three 460s and Campbell Ford received two 460s. One being the lone 460x and the other was the only production Saleen Mustang with a serial number "06." I think.

Which makes for five known 2010 460s.
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No the gauges are the SMS. I had to have my HID's dealer installed as the car did not have them originally.

The guage pod's of the older cars amy or may not work. The dash pad changed in 2010, so these is a little cove in the center of the pad now, where it was flat previousy.
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No the gauges are the SMS. I had to have my HID's dealer installed as the car did not have them originally.
Do you still have the SMS logo kick plates under the doors?

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The dash pad changed in 2010, so these is a little cove in the center of the pad now, where it was flat previousy.
I think I can recall the 2010 460x did have a 570 pod for photos. Not sure if it had one when delivered to Campbell Ford.

Here is what the 570 Challenger pod looks like.

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I wonder if those can still be ordered? I'll have to check the site. Txs!
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Another gauge pod option is the 2012-13 Boss 302 LS Edition cluster without the Ford supplied gauges.

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The rectangle exhaust tips have made their appearance during many shows and premiers, but it does not appear they ever went into production. These tips are usually removed from the display vehicle after the occasion.
Any idea if these are 'available' anywhere? I'm guessing they match the ones on my 2011 MJ/Revstone car, probably wouldn't hurt to have a set around for future reference.
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That one is okay, but I would like one that looks more integrated with the car. That one looks too tacked on, if you understand what I am saying...
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Any idea if these are 'available' anywhere? I'm guessing they match the ones on my 2011 MJ/Revstone car, probably wouldn't hurt to have a set around for future reference.
I do not believe the rectangle 570/460/302 exhaust tips entered production.

The SPV tips appear wider since they are a split design. It an odd twist they almost look opposite. The 570/460 tip is long vertically and thin horizontally. While the SPV tip is thin vertically and wide horizontally.

I would recommend contacting Jarred Means or David Rivard in MI to see what SPV 2010-12 equipment remains in their warehouse. Then purchase accordingly. Alternative Auto had a 2010-12 hood on eBay a few months back. I recall they were listing it as "odds and ends" leftover from building the SPV Mustangs. Not sure as to how much leftover they had.

The minimal parts stash for a vehicle owner should be... hood, grill, front bumper cover, rear bumper cover, one front wheel, one rear wheel, emblem set, decal set.
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Betsy tells me her 351 WILL have those rectangular exhaust tips...lol
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Note:

Looks like at least one 2012 S302 received the MJ/Revstone "SALEEN" logo door sill plates that light. This car has the SMS logo white gauge face.
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I wouldn't mind having a set of those 'Saleen' lighted door plates...lol
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Looks like at least one 2012 S302 received the MJ/Revstone "SALEEN" logo door sill plates that light.
My 2011 has them as well. I would pick up another set if there are any out there since the drivers side one got scratched already.

I've already been in contact with Jared about getting a set of wheels since one of mine managed to find a curb, thanks for the info!
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another gauge pod option is the 2012-13 boss 302 ls edition cluster without the ford supplied gauges.

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The 2010 - 05 car ALSO had the Chrome fender lables tilted. Clearly visible in the video of the Bob Bell Ford still up on the internet.
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Are these the tips?

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Are these the tips?
The above are the dual port 2010-12 tips from the Michigan produced cars.

Below are the rarely used single port California produced tip.
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Are these the tips?

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Those look like the ones on my 2011 MJ/Revstone car. I'd be interested in purchasing them depending on the price.
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There not for sale at this moment. Going to be using them on my 2014 clone. Unless I go a different route.
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Here is the 2010 460X (302 Extreme) dash pod.
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