This is not supposed to look that different on the outside, thats what it seems many are missing here. The idea is just a performance version of the Mustang GT. The full S281 with a totally restyled body kit is coming in the fall.
This vehicle has the same SC kit on it that the 07-09 S281 cars have, the only difference is the exhaust does not come upgraded standard. So since the 475 was probably a bit stretched anyway and it has stock Ford GT exhaust we lowered the rating to 435. We would rather under promise and over deliver than the other way around. As far as pricing goes, the base car will include the following as standard equipment for $9999.95 over Ford MSRP (Total Price varies if your talking about a Premium GT Or Deluxe GT) Supercharger Full Racecraft Suspension kit Short throw shift kit Saleen Cluster Applique Saleen Deck lid Panel Slotted and Drilled Rotors front and rear 18" Torque Blade wheels Embroidered headrests Exterior decal package Some of the Optional accessories are: Aero package (Chin Splitter, Rear Spoiler) 14" Brake upgrade package 19", and 20" wheel upgrades Exhaust upgrade kit Thank you Jess |
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For 9999.99 That sounds like a deal and a half! I'm sure with a little massaging this is the wolf in sheep's clothing. Hey Jess some people want all the glitz other people want the blood and guts go fast car. This is certianly the wolf, no doubt.
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Hey Jess,
Is there a way to download a brochure or can one be sent to us? |
Jess,
Hope things are going well for you guys. I kind of like it, sedate. Can't wait to see the "S" cars. That price is a great value. Good luck :) |
Got it...$10k for Charger, Suspension, and wheels...
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Jess,
Again thank you for taking the time out of your busy mustang week schedule to provide us with factual details. |
We added the complete specifications and a downloadable "Hero Card" in the first post.
Thank you, Jess, for the pricing information. |
Where? I scrolled down and read the small print, could not find the link?
As HotRodHarry said, I like the rear much better than the rest! Who needs a "fake" gas cap? Thanks, Eric |
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Thanks! That, plus these:
"Some of the Optional accessories are: (implying that there is more?) Aero package (Chin Splitter, Rear Spoiler) 14" Brake upgrade package 19", and 20" wheel upgrades Exhaust upgrade kit" Got it. Eric |
Now i see why Steve is suing to keep his name of that... "thing"...
Looks like they raided the 05-09 parts bin,tossed on the Dan Gurney wheels and ordered some cheap body parts from CDC... threw some decals on and embroidered "Saleen" on the headrests... |
^Yeah its pretty sad....but they are getting away with it buy calling it their stripped down version built for speed not looks...It will cost over $42-47k and nobody will buy it right now...
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I don't know... I don't think i like it. I've grown accustom to my Saleens looking like nothing else on the road. This one is going to be mistaken for a plane old GT. I'll save for the SMS.
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Lets figure there were California Sports, GT Sports, V6 Sports and the previous Racecraft Edition produced over the past 25-years. The idea on an entry-level, Saleen-kissed Mustang is not a new one.
The current incarnation does hold a familiar naming convention note, the 435S, which will tie the 2008 ½ - 2009 Racecraft 420S into the family. It was a peculiar vehicle since it was marketed as the non-Saleen, built by Saleen Inc, with Saleen parts… but it's a "Racecraft Vehicle?" Quote:
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If it were me, I would start the 435S model with a 19" standard. Since the 2010 GT has an 18" wheel as base; one up the factory offering. Then too... I don't know the amount of overstock MJA acquired. Quote:
In terms of marketing... SALEEN holds more perceived value than RACECRAFT. Saleen = 25-Years of performance vehicles. Racecraft = A generic trade name. Why take additional effort to build a new brand, when it's going to be built with equipment that either states SALEEN or hold flying S logos. Quote:
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I think the standard Mustang buyer or speed freak will hold interest in the 435S Saleen. If you pick up a base GT for the estimated $28,000.00 or so… and opt for a 435S package at $10,000.00… after taxes and fees you’ll probably be in at 40K. It should under-cut most of the tuner cars in terms of price and advertised equipment. My only issue would be competition from FMC and Ford Racing Performance Parts. A buyer has the option, starting with the 2010 model, of a Track Pack suspension group. They can also request the selling dealer to equip their new steed with a FRPP Whipple before the sale and retain their 3/36,000 warranty. OR: A buyer can purchase the same $28K GT and have the dealer equip the vehicle with a FRPP suspension kit and Whipple before delivery and still retain the 3/36,000 from Ford. If I were to offer an entry-level Saleen, I would have placed more into the styling and package. That's my only semi-complaint, flashbacks of another McCammon car. I question how the PJ/Heritage wing looks mounted to the 2010 trunk since it was designed for the 2005-2009 lid. It would have been pretty novel to design a unique throwback whale-tail (as standard) to tie a key part of Saleen heritage into the car. The hood decal is cool with the body color chevrons poking through, but then no need for a second pair of chevrons on the fenders. Overly stressing a Saleen connection. The 2008 ½ - 2009 Racecraft side striping was a feature that I liked on that model. Would have been neat to keep that idea... or once again… design a throwback decal kit and offer it in blue, gold, silver and black. The Racecraft Focus concept had a nice visual play with the wrap-around black side striping and color matched wheels. Jeff had mentioned during Carlisle that the entry-level Saleen would feature center exit exhaust. I'm imagining that the 2005-2009 S-kit either protruded too far from a stock 2010 bumper... or had interference with the plate mount area. That would have been a cool item had it made the cut as a standard feature. Basically, I would have liked to seen the 435S as more of a "package car," a trait Saleen (as a brand) was known for, and less of a "you finish yourself." I understand the 435S and have no issue with it, but I can't say Saleen heritage will sell this model or that it will not get lost when inventoried on a sales lot. The car has a great chance to be a sales leader with a proven selection of parts for $10,000.00. The Saleen name is secondary for the 435S. If I were to market the 435S... I would speak to the folks in the SCCA and NHRA to see how to competitively classify this vehicle for motorsports. The Folks (Mike, Jeff, Jess) should be applauded for their efforts over the past six or so months. Parts supplying, owner's inquiries, etc. Quote:
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all this has done imo is dilute the saleen name..you cant have two (2) saleens..and a saleen should be made by STEVE SALEEN..not mj acq or whatever..the cheap watered down 2010 validates this..and dont say its a cheap version due to the economic times..that is bs..
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Nice mustang GT....got any pics of the saleen?
nevermind my bust...that is the new saleen...I thought it was just a plain mustang GT by the looks |
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I feel there is a niche market for this car, as far as it being a true Saleen or not- I'm sure this car runs great right out of the box and it does have a very sleeper looking body. If you don't like it, SPEND 25K more and buy an SMS model whenever it comes out, IT'S YOUR CHOICE! I think the SPV is a hot rodders SALEEN, and the SMS car is more the businessman's hot rod. But the SPV car will appeal to many because of PRICE and FUNCTIONALITY. Meaning it doesn't have to have all the eye candy to have a whole lot of fun. Isn't that how Mr. Saleen started anyhow?
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^Did you really say price will attract...When these hit the dealers please link me to one under $40k...btw good luck
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dont mean to thrash it..but it does the saleen name zero justice..if there gonna use the name because they have legal right at least make a statement....anyone who wants a legit saleen will buy an sms anyhow. |
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Wow 79K ouch! Strike the 25K comment anyone for 35K??? If you want exclusivity as it is always been you will have to pay for it. I am curious anyone who seen the 435S at Mustang Week were these numbered cars as all Saleen cars have been?
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I believe Jess said they would be # not sure and it looks like one of them is numbered 02.
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Thanks Greg just curious I wonder how many they plan on making this year or is it going to be a need basis? Should be interesting to see how many sell. The blog on Autoweek seemed to be very favorable of the SPV Mustang also, so we will have to see. I'd love to test drive one. I'm sure it runs well, but the 14" brake upgrade should be a forced option being that there will be a crazy or two who would think the GT brakes are good enough with an S/C installed.
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well..i guess good luck to um because you want everyone to do well. im sure there are people who will like the 435 and purchase one. |
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im not tring to be a pain..really..just stating opinion. you know the saying opninons are like ****oles..everyone has one.. peace out |
The way that I see it is that you have even MORE options and price levels, to get a very nice car.
Mustang GT=$30,000 (with options, comes closer to, next) 435S=$42,000 (with options, comes closer to, next) Etc,Etc, all the way to $100,000 Just pick your Poison! :smile: Eric |
Thanks Jess for the earlier comment. The explanation on the HP drop makes sense. I can even support leaving the exhaust out as the note is a very subjective thing that is easily upgraded to the exhaust of your choice.
Personally, I think subtle badging on a mainly stock exterior car would be better. With only a few items that really stand out, it looks like they were added as an afterthought from another car. I guess I am up to my .10 cents now. |
Little lost...I was expressing my opinion...The new saleen looks like a regular GT..In fact the only thing IMO that stands out are the wheels. Without the wheels it looks like every single GT I have seen on the road...
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^But at $42-47K it doesnt make sense...Someone could build a better stang for thousands cheaper...They would have been better off keeping up with saleen styling then hoping some randoms will pay out the a** for a plain GT sleeper...
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